Showing posts with label Suckhole. Show all posts
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Thursday, August 6, 2020

Skid Row Row Your Boat Gently Down A Stream


https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/dee-snider-sebastian-bach-and-mike-portnoy-react-to-spotify-ceo-what-a-greedy-little-bitch/

Someone let Grandpa out of the garage
Here's what happens when old rockers don't read the Terms of Service.  And it backs up what I've been saying for years now: if you're looking for money from music, focus on sales and not streams.

I'm going to comment on this one line by line and maybe by the end, we can figure out why some of these Drama Queens, like Sebastian Bach, are so out of touch these days.

TWISTED SISTER singer Dee Snider, former SKID ROW frontman Sebastian Bach and ex-DREAM THEATER drummer Mike Portnoy are among the musicians who have taken issue with Spotify CEO Daniel Ek's suggestion that artists need to be more prolific in the streaming age.

Remember all those times I suggested if you wanted to make music for the rest of your life, you should have a day job too?  It's good advice.

For years, Spotify has been criticized for offering paltry payouts to musicians and songwriters, with some claiming that the service gives major-label artists an unfair advantage via playlist placement and other promotional avenues.

In an interview published Thursday, Ek told Music Ally: "Even today on our marketplace, there's literally millions and millions of artists. What tends to be reported are the people that are unhappy, but we very rarely see anyone who's talking about… In the entire existence [of Spotify], I don't think I've ever seen a single artist saying, 'I'm happy with all the money I'm getting from streaming,' stating that publicly. In private, they have done that many times, but in public, they have no incentive to do it. But unequivocally, from the data, there are more and more artists that are able to live off streaming income in itself.

"There is a narrative fallacy here, combined with the fact that, obviously, some artists that used to do well in the past may not do well in this future landscape, where you can't record music once every three to four years and think that's going to be enough," he continued.


That's important, actually.  People's attention spans (myself included) have gotten shorter.  Even at home any more, I'm usually recording something.  I might put it out, I might not but that's because I always like new stuff, and the more the better.  You can't put out 30/40 minutes of music every two years and just sit back and coast, especially if the style of music you're doing hasn't been in fashion for 30 years.

"The artists today that are making it realize that it's about creating a continuous engagement with their fans. It is about putting the work in, about the storytelling around the album, and about keeping a continuous dialogue with your fans.

Makes sense.  What these babies should do is film the recording session and put mini-docs out up until the release.  Create an interest instead of just hiring an Ad/PR agency to promote the release and then not do anything after it's out.  I always wondered why people spend more time promoting something that's not available instead of something that is.

"I feel, really, that the ones that aren't doing well in streaming are predominantly people who want to release music the way it used to be released," he added.

He is mostly right.  The thing I don't believe is "there are more and more artists that are able to live off streaming income in itself."  Maybe if the artist is still living in their parents' basement and have no expenses, then someone could live off streaming income but I doubt they would be living comfortably just from that.

A number of notable artists have since fired back at Ek over his suggestion that artists need to churn out more content if they want to the same money they used to, with many in the music community saying that's just not how the creative process works.

"While you (the listener) benefit & enjoy Spotify, it's part of what's killing a major income stream for artist/creators," Snider tweeted. "The amount of artists 'rich enough' to withstand this loss are about .0001%. Daniel Ek's solution is for us to write & record more on our dime?! Fuck him!"


You'd better get to work since this is the way things are currently and will be for the foreseeable future.  Also, sales haven't been the major income stream for a long time.  Performance royalties would probably be the major income stream for a band that had a hit in the 80s and doesn't tour anymore, unless you had a stroke of luck and that song wound up in a movie or a video game.  Dee's "Daniel Ek's solution is for us to write & record more on our dime" is a little off.  It's not the solution but it doesn't look good for someone like Mr Bach since more of his solo songs isn't what anyone wants or needs.  There's millions of songs on Spotify, why would I waste my time listening to 80s "metal" when it wasn't even good at the time?

Bach also chimed in, writing: "When this guy puts out an album himself I will listen to him tell me about my albums."

It could be the lack of punctuation or lack of smarts but he should have said, "...I will listen to him tell me about my albums and how they tank out of the gate."  I think his last CD was certified Paper by the RIAA.

Portnoy was equally critical of Ek's comments, tweeting: "What a greedy little bitch...it's bad enough that he's worth BILLIONS based on stealing and giving away other musician's music...but now he's suggesting we need to make MORE music for HIM to make more money!!! F-@Spotify and F-@eldsjal

You know why he's rich?  Because he obviously did something right.  You know that Spotify isn't a payday, unless you didn't read the TOS.  Opt out if it bothers you so much.  I used to opt out of having my stuff on Tidal, since I didn't like the owners (they were celebrities calling themselves artists).  It's easy to opt out.  And how exactly is Ek "stealing and giving away other musician's music"?  We may never know the answer.

"I have 8 full album releases in 2020 & will make PEANUTS on them (if anything at all...) So his theory of artists needing to make MORE music to succeed is shit! F-@eldsjal & F-@Spotify! Support THE ARTISTS DIRECTLY if you want them to be able to continue to make music..."

He should have put his songs on BandCamp so people could buy them.  If you want more money from streams, talk to your label or manager to see if they can get you a better deal.  As good as Mr Portnoy is, what he plays on is for a pretty niche market; not a lot of Prog Metal in the charts.  They may be the best fans in the world but it's not a huge number.  He'd be better off playing sessions, at least he can do that whereas Dee and Mr Bach are out of luck on that one. 

Here's why all of these belly-achers are so dumb.  They're so hung up on streaming yet they want to make money.  As I mentioned at the top: focus on sales.  Treat your streams as promotion for the sale, then you'd get the money for the sale AND the stream.  I have zero sympathy for these three Extra Chromosomers.  They've known forever that money is in the touring, and wait for it, merchandise.  But people don't stream merchandise, they sell it.  It's income.  But someone like Bach would still want $0.02 for every time you wore the T-shirt that you bought at his show.

Since I hiked my stuff over to DistroKid, I have 5 or 6 things up on Spotify.  You know how much I expect to make from streams?  $0.  I expect the same out of sales too so anything to me, is a bonus.  And thankfully over the years, I have seen minor payouts and I'm still thrilled that happened.  I'm not here for the money, I'm here because I thoroughly enjoy making music whether it's playing guitar, making the songs, being my own engineer, mixing, making the cover.  I enjoy the whole process, especially since it's all from home and I'm not wasting a gross amount of money going into a recording studio.  Thank God I'm not on a label either.  Also, I don't have to cater to an audience.  The only one that has to like what I do is me since I'm the guy that's going to be listening to it the most.  If someone else does and likes it, then great, if not, no big deal.  At the end of the day, I'm happy. 

And I still haven't figured out why Drama Queens, like Sebastian Bach, are so out of touch these days.

Monday, February 9, 2015

Suckhole Who Goes By The Nickname Yeezy Seeks Attention


I had a good laugh at some Grammy reports this morning.


Of course, I don't watch the Grammys.  They've never been valid in the first place.  I've known that since I was about 12.  Here's the clip in short:

Kanye West on Beck's Grammy: 'He Should've Given His Award to Beyonce'
Beck's Morning Phase was named Album of the Year, a category in which the now 44-year-old veteran of the alt-rock scene topped the likes of Pharrell, Ed Sheeran, Sam Smith and Beyonce. And, to give everyone a dose of deja vu, Yeezy went up to the stage, making everyone (including Jay Z and Bey) freak out about whether he was going to pull a "Kanye" again.

He didn't, and everyone laughed it off. But when the rapper stopped by the E! After Party, he definitely didn't hold back and made it very clear that his little antic tonight was not just for fun, and said that Beck should have given his award to Beyonce.

"I don't know what he said, all I know is if the Grammys want real artists to keep coming back, they need to stop playing with us. We ain't gonna play with them no more....Beck needs to respect artistry and he should have given his award to Beyonce, and at this point, we tired of it," 'Ye began to say with his usual intensity.
"Because what happens is, when you keep on diminishing art and not respecting the craft and smacking people in the face after they deliver monumental feats of music, you're disrespectful to inspiration and we as musicians have to inspire people who go to work every day and they listen to that Beyonce album and they feel like it takes them to another place."

He continued, "Then they do this whole promotional event, they'll run the music over somebody's speech, the artist, because they want commercial advertising. Like, no, we not playing with them no more. By the way, I got my wife, my daughter and my clothing line, so I'm not going to do nothing to put my daughter at risk but I am here to fight for creativity. That's the reason why I didn't say anything tonight. But you all know what it meant when 'Ye walks on the stage.

Kanye's pretty shit to begin with, so I had a good laugh at his "diminishing the art and not respecting the craft".  Pot calling a Kettle black?

Beyonce's no better.  Maybe if the Grammys renamed themselves to the Lightweight Awards, he might have a point: Beyonce lacks artistry.  While I'm not a Beck fan by any stretch, his stuff does have a lot more substance than any pop CD.  And Beck's been doing well when Kanye was trying to make it through High School.

Kanye may be right about one thing when he said: "...and they listen to that Beyonce album and they feel like it takes them to another place".  He's right: it takes me right to the bathroom.

Kanye: take note.  Just because you're vocal and insecure doesn't make your opinion any more (or just plain) valid.  You're not a real artist, so really you can't comment.  Your producer has all the "brains" in that lousy Pop you "make", or is it that white "R & B" that doesn't have any Blues or Rhythm in it anymore?

And you brought up that you have a clothing line?  OK, thanks for mentioning that, Pussy.  Could you be any less of a man?

Oh, and you're not a musician and you'll never be musically credible.  Musically, you're a complete failure and your lack of creativity makes Nickleback look like geniuses.  We all know what it means when 'Ye walks on the stage.  It means someone's not getting enough attention.

You can go cry now, OK, Suckie?

So let's see, the Grammies are meaningless and Kanye and Beyonce are meaningless.  Why the fuss?  If the Grammies really did want artists to keep coming back, they should drop most of the Rap and R&B categories since Rap hasn't done anything in new and/or interesting in 20 years and it's just as shitty as New Country.

Message for the Kids: Musicians don't have to "inspire" people.  Musicians play instruments and make music.  That's lost on people like Kanye, who actually look at the Grammys as some form of validation.  A musician's "job" isn't to inspire people, it's to do the job well and play their instrument the best they can.  Anything else people read into it is their own baggage.  Play for yourself.